I’m lucky enough to know both these talented dudes to a degree but I still learned a lot and love this interview and it’s insights. Also here is the original short shot in ‘81.
R.I.P. Lance aka Rambo Click links below to gofund me for his family and two articles about his work.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4w7ppb/the-cryptic-billboard-messages-all-over-nyc-explained-1101